Question. Tien held Cell back because Tri-beam is a strong technique. Anyway, here are my arguments for why Tien is stronger than Krillin. Krillin has been said to be stronger than Tien. Rest and recuperate, you've been taken apart....again. But an attack being x30,000... anyone who says Tien is in the low hundred thousands, clearly hasn't got their head around the utter stupidity of this multiplier. Santiago He could easily be hurt from the attack, also note how there is smoke coming from his body.SK It doesn't drain life force, that was a viz mistake. Since Nail's been living some of his life with a power of 42K, having a power of 42K or less is obviously "believable" to him.It's the same way with Post Rosat Gotenks when compared to his Pre RoSaT self. he thinks...MFG dumb old theory:Cell was not hurt from Tiens Shin Kikoho's, he was just merely pushed back for a couple of minutesDBZ fan with a brain:OMFG are you fucking retarded?? Akira Toriyama stated that Krillin is stronger but this is a huge plot hole because Krillin has no feats on his side. In the Dragon Ball Tenka’ichi Densetsu TV guide, Akira Toriyama comments that Kuririn is the strongest male earthling. All the voice actors wondered, “Why did she choose Kuririn?” (laughs), Toriyama: Kuririn was originally supposed to be just a minor role, so to have him become Goku’s best friend in the blink of an eye…. This is to be expected though as he is human and he has far less experience compared to Master Roshi (though we don't find out he is still really strong until Super). Krillin is the weakest. Yep yep! Krillin trained, but he didn't do it as much and actually stopped for a few years after Cell. Tenshin doesn't need his presence anymore,it is like saying that, he told the humans to split and train by themselves using what they have, Plus, Goku didn’t use kaio's aid or gravity to train in those 3 years (like, in both, heroes become strong enough to face the villains,simply,now the enemies are. Answer:Ok fucking dumbass,i guess since Vegeta, gohan and, Kaio said his training would be more difficult than what he gave to Goku--and since Piccolo was much. 3) Tien 4) Krillen The reason I think Tien is stronger than Krillen is because of the height advantage. Cell Saga Tien >>>>> Cell and Frieza Saga Krillin. This didn't stop him from training and showing up for the Androids after feeling Freeza's supressed power level who was certainly above 3 millions.Tenshinhan got harder training from Kaio, and was there for way longer than Goku. Gravity is half the reason the Room of Spirit and Time is so good. Yeah, Krillin's timid nature is a good possibility, but bear in mind that there is indeed prove that by Toei, both Tien Yamcha are portrayed as stronger than Krillin. And during those 3 years the only guy using gravity is vegeta. As such, Cell realizes that Tien will continue to strike for multiple attacks. Who is the Strongest Earthling? Plot for sayajins? Tien has shown himself to be useful in combat with the stronger villains than yamcha and krillin combined. He is at least stronger than Tenshinhan during the Cell Games, and most likely the entire android arc as well. If he really wanted, he could even use multi form and beat himself/make himself his own training partner and get incredible mind boggling increases off of that. Do you disagree or agree, if so why? Once again, assuming he's less than 1 million just because it doesn't comply with faulty calculations is retarded. their training was too different to draw comparisons to, because Kami trained them to. And when I mention training with Goku I mean the 3 years before the Cyborgs, not the 7 years after Cell's defeat.Answer:I'm trying to say that if the fusion with Nail is what made him increase so much during those 3 years, tell me why he couldn't keep up with Goku and Vegeta after a fusion with Kami and 7 years of training.Plus,Gohan who has more potential than Piccolo and trained with him and ssj Goku was miles away from Piccolo.Actually, Piccolo says that Gohan Krillin and Tenshinhan belong to the same branch of power,ie,several millions.Dumb MFG old theory:Which further backs up my stance that once you get used to one method it no longer becomes benificial (Ten's weighted clothing) and that it takes extreme training conditions to give these massive leaps of power. This scan is about Tenshinhan's and Piccolo's extreme will to train. Tien never stoped training. was the equivalent to thousands of years of training on earth. I can they did it evrey time in Cell saga where they were that level. Content. Add new page. re: The strongest human:Krillin or Tien? No one that weak would be strong enough to be slapped around that much.Goku was kicking the shit out of 19 before he absorbed anything. Obviously, Piccolo was even stronger then Nail just by training with kaio-sama for a week. In a world filled with impossibly strong androids and aliens like the Saiyans and Namekians, it can be tough for a regular human in that world of fighters. During the namek events tien trains with kaio but krillin has his potential unlocked by guru- which is the better power up? Even during the battle with Buu, he gallantly appears. I want be too hard on you guys, because I once thought the same thing. Saoichourou boost (that should mean much, and it did when they fought Frieza), Destructo Disc VS Shin-Kikoho > both techniques provide much more powerful attack than the base attacker (remember Raditz's surprise when he realized that single attack is stronger than the actual attacker) where Disc has been shown to cut much more stronger opponents, Krillin's experience should be enough to top Tien's training, alone. In Dragonball when child Goku fights master Roshi and loses. Answer:Freeza can control his battle power remember? It goes beyond his background and training. They then train for the androids- who has more gains? SSJ Goku would've wasted 19 in a matter of seconds, seriously. Considering Nail didn't ever bring anything about Namekian heritage or any other Nameks into the equation as he talked to Piccolo, it's a HUGE and retarded assumption to think he's comparing his battle power to them. That's a huge increase.Before: Raditz stronger than goku and Piccolo by a long shotAfter: Tenshinhan stronger than Raditz by a long shotTenshinhan after training in much less time compared to Goku surpasses Raditz. Krillin at least fought 2 guys on the same level as 18 and defeated them. Each energy attack in Dragon Ball uses a proportionally-fixed amount of the user's "ki". re: The strongest human:Krillin or Tien? - Page 30. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. When it comes to battle, the most important thing is ki size, and its control. 42 / Chp. Speaking of women who fight, there is No. To get to 1,500,000, he'd have to increase his power by 500,000.Answer:Are you fucking retarded??? He would lose power.Dumb MFG old theory:Gravity was one of the reasons Goku increased his power from 400 to 8,000. Yes, in more than one source. Of course not.Answer:This is not our world or a real life moment,this is a cartoon, Toriyama puts Tenshinhan there,he had the power to take him out or even not use piccolo to make that suggestion or even not make that suggestion at all.Get over it dumbass!!!!!!!!!! Although Toriyama said that Krillin is the strongest pure earthling, Tien is actually stronger overall and is part alien (3 eyed race). But in spite of that, he tends to end up in a bad way, so I thought, “once in a while, I have to let him be happy,” and had him get married. You should be used to it by now.lolDumb MFG memberThey had different training. These 40-tons are ridiculous for obvious reasons.In daizenshuu 7 Page 119"Just, there cannot have a big difference between the base fighting potential and his original base (powerlevel)to use it , and if the fighter persists in carrying out a very powerful kaioken his body can explode under the effect of a powerful energy discharge.For the one whose fighting potential reaches 8.000 the limits to use safely kaioken must be the double, that is to say 16.000.For the one who has a potential of 3.000.000 kaioken canincrease his powerlevel ten more times "The text about kaioken also states that kaioken uses life forceFrench daizenshuu also states that neo kikoho is a stronger version from kikoho.But, above you could read that if you use an attack with life force and your power level is too low,your body will explode.Regarding daizenshuu is clear to me that this text suggests that Tenshinhan had a power level in the millions.It clearly states that your body can explodeif you use an attack who is a lot stronger than your base power levelex:Goku to use safely his kaio ken x 10 had to reach 3 millions.So shin kikoho is a lot more powerful than kaioh ken x 10 or 20 and if Ten's body didn't explode it is obvious thathe had a pl in the millions.Dumb MFG old theory:But Piccolo's power is most definitely due to the Nail fusion. Tien's speed is so great that makes Yamcha and Krillin not being able to see him at all. So if you think toriyama/toei have the final say then there is your answer- done deal.If you prefer to go by "feats" or in-universe dialogue/exposition, then it is up for debate. lolPlus,Gohan is put in the same category (None of you can beat the Android) as Tenshinhan by Piccolo. Thanks to nickolaus for the great info. 18. While Tien was in the battle against Vegeta … My point is continually backed up.Answer:OMFG you look like a broken record you fucking dumbass!!!!!!! ?lolYou are the one who needs to re-read that part, he made objections to dende and mister satan,the only guy regarded as valuable in that situation it was Tenshinhan.You love to be taken apart about the same subject over an over again.If you look at dragon ball as a whole the trigger who takes an heroe to an astonishing improvement is a big battle.The enemies changed in dbz and logically all of them will make big leaps. He attacked Dodoria with a chi blast, thinking it killed him, then was shocked when the dust settled and Dodoria was unharmed. (Namekian Fusion, Zenkai's, SSJ forms)Answer:Not again dumbass!!!!!! There's nothing to back that up. Tien was even victorious in his fight with the heroes, breaking Yamcha's leg and eventually defeating Goku in the final match. In dragonball, vs dragonball z and Dragon ball super, it is much easier to get a sense of who was stronger between the humans because the emphasis was on what well trained human martial artists could do. User blog:Bio-electricity2/Who is stronger,Tien ,yamcha,or krillin? Once the Mini Monk tanks a slew of direct hits - including a variant of Bruce Lee's legendary Dragon Stomp - the fake Lee realizes he may be outmatched. No one knows. Though characters like No. One of his parents was a member of the Triclops race of aliens, which is why he has three eyes and why he can perform bizarre techniques that other Z-Fighter's cannot emulate (like growing the extra arms). I'd say Krillin is slightly stronger, but Tien is the better fighter of the two. don't be an idiot, even in Dragonball Krillin did better against Tien than Yamcha. After the battle with Cell, he set off with Chaozu on a journey of training, and during the battle with Majin Buu he saved his comrade from danger. Piccolo had to be darn powerful to impress nail. Frieza saga Krillin > Tien,Cell saga Tien > Krillins and Buu saga onwards Krillin > Tien for being on more than 10 panels. After the battle with Piccolo Daimao had ended, he began to live the life of a traveling warrior along with Chaozu. Question?How could piccolo and the others improve so much from 6 days of training and beat the ginew force? !Dumb MFG old theoryYes, but not to the extent Goku or Piccolo did on Namek.Answer:Finally, you are opening your thick skull.lolNot to the extent of a ssj Get it?Dumb MFG old theoryYes, it has nothing to do with them training with Kami and getting weighted clothing for the first time. The only time he could use it was during the 10 years after the defeat of Buu but we know so little about that period that it's pointless to speculate whether he did or didn't.Answer:And the nominees for THE I GOT BITCH SLAPPED THE HARDEST FOR 2WAY THUGGING AWARD are...MFG crazy dumb member.Goku abandoned Gravity training period, if gravity was the big thing he just could ask Bulma to make a new Gravity Chamber for himand he wasn't just training Gohan, he trained himself to become stronger than ever like Piccolo and as you can seePiccolo's increase proves that all of them got a big boost.MFG dumb old theory:The 40 ton thing when goku was training to the 25 World tournament is irrelevant to this conversationAnswer:Again trying to ignore the facts dumbass and twist the reality.You fail again!!!!!! I think that it was through turning ki into formidable power that Goku drew closer to being the strongest warrior in the universe. While defeating the off-brand model is nowhere near as impressive as the real deal, Krillin is stronger than a Bruce Lee. Gohan was also pretty weak, so his throw down with Super Saiyan Goku & Piccolo wasn't nearly as effective as Piccolo's.Tenshinhan being a human(he isn't) has no relevance to it, because he can get more out of a year than what Goku did in 8 full years of namek training system. he has physical idiosyncrasies that can't be considered that of an Earthling, such as splitting into four people, and growing arms from his shoulders. 3) In the Namek Saga, the combined efforts of Vegeta, Krillin, and Gohan were no match for Recoome. Nobody ever really doubts that. This is pretty constant. Tien never stopped training throughout the whole series. Not to mention, nail's nonchalance seems to be part of his character. In fact, this is probably one of the biggest debates among fans today. He was shown to get over 7x stronger in one year of fierce training. Despite that, two humans, Krillin and Tien have stayed at the forefront of the battles that defined Dragon Ball Z. He only gave Goku a few punches and Goku went off to train with him. Yamcha was either busy getting blown up, impaled, or having his leg broken to do anything and all krillin ever did was babysit. He made the series and knows who is stronger etc. !Despite having reflexes in the billionths of a second range, Cell is surprised so badly by Tien that he stands still as Tien cries out Shin Kikoho, and then is smashed into a hole by the attack!After being smashed into the hole, Cell gets up and eyes his opponent with an evil look. Their training was too different to draw comparisons to.AnswerNo, it wasn't, Popo knowledge came from kami and Goku appliedthose teachings during 8 years,in both scenarios they trained to survive and beat powerful foes and save the earth and half of the time tenshin and the gang trained by themselves.Actually the manga shows Tenshin training by himself in Kami's lookout.Krillin against popo,etc. With orginal Japanese words such as: Answer:Freeza can control his battle power remember? I think Tien is probably stronger, but Krillin is more agile. And on that note as well, are there any humans stronger than they are? ?We saw those effects on piccolo when in the earth he improved more than 100 millions or when goku trained 1 month in the rosat(room of spirit and time) during his preparation for the 23ºBT.Gravity on rosat was around 50.What happened?? After all, as you pointed out, Piccolo and the Humans were rather close before he started took advantage of the Namek Fusion.Answer:I see it this way,if there isn't a fusion with nail and let's say piccolo has 150 millions after those 3 years.You just take from him 1 million,the power level he gained from the fusion with nail.There you go, piccolo without nail would have 149 millions.Finally, daizenshuu states that Shin Kikoho is a stronger version from the previous Kikoko and in the manga it isn't stated that he used life force,so if you add thisto the statement about goku saying that he needed to reach a pl of 3 millions to use kaioken x10 to avoid self destruction,ie, goku's body would explode.I cannot see how Tien's body (Ten uses an attack stronger than kaio ken x20) could sustain such a massive attack without explode himself to pieces considering that goku's body could explode with a weaker boost increase.Plus,You don't know how shin kikoho works,both are dangerous, both can kill you and daizenshuu clearly suggests that both follow similar principles if you think about ten's statements in kaio's planet about mixing kaio's teachings with his techniques everything is solved.Plus, Tenshinhan knows how much ki goku needed to use kaiokenx10 and he was not impressed.Basically, it makes all the sense that if you need 3 millions to use an attack who improves your power level 10times,shin kikoho who improves a lot more than 20 would force you to have a pl above that.Nail on Piccolo after 6 days on king kai:"You have an astonishing amount of power" and Piccolo basically agreed.This puts Piccolo above Nail after 6 days on king kais if you ask me. Among Dragon Ball Z fans, there's a pretty fierce debate over whether Krillin is actually stronger than Tien. How Strong is Krillin Now Dragon Ball? The guy below said Krillen but...after what Tien did to cell...I mean, if Toriyama says so, then it is what it is, but I'm just saying man... it's an endless debate. As the announcer is about to start the match. But after this training his power level was stated to be "About 85,000". !Tenshinhan made a special training to the androids saga and he used a special weighted outfit(it is in the manga)probably given by Kaio.Ten is not a kid anymore he doesn't need a sensei to train anymore, that's why he created something big like shin kikoho.Every time the z-senshi trained for a battle all of them had a big increase in power,that is the standard.Kame sennin and kami,both explained that training with a master under special conditions and then following with their own regiment to improve even more was the key and a standard repeated several times through Dragon ball and gravity training is not reliable for nothing.Goku abandoned gravity training and vegeta trained in 150 after mastering 300.Actually if Goku were able to train in 100xG (before namek), he would weight near 10 tons in the gravity chamber. Still, I must ask why in the blue hell would you think Krillin is stronger than Tien? Plus, Goku didn’t use kaio's aid or gravity to train in those 3 years (like Tenshinhan) and all of us know that Goku did astonishing progresses.Vegeta didn’t have anybody to help him and became extremely powerful,so your point fails hard.Again you have been taken apart!!!! !Yeah,they received intense training by themselves provided by everything they have learned in the past,in Tenshinhan's case Namek training system and Kaio's training system the best in the Universe.There isn't anybody else to provide extra teachings like in the preparation for the 23 BT where Ten managed to surpass Piccolo Daimaoh, former main villain at the time training by himself.Goku trained alone too for the 22º BT.The only guy who used high gravity was vegeta so you can't exclude all the others.MFG dumb old theory:Because they hadn't taken advantage of their genetic gifts, the Zenkai's and the fusions, and they didn't use the extreme gravity training yet. In the past, it was clear that Roshi had been surpassed by Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, and even Chiaotzu, but this may no longer be true.If he's stronger than Tien, there's a good chance that he could defeat Yamcha and Krillin as well. He has shown to be as good as Goku in training conditions. Goku wouldn't have gotten as powerful in the 7 years of peace if not for Kaio-sama's aid. Presented as a worthy challenger to Dragon Ball's Goku, Tien even manages - with some luck - to defeat the protagonist in the finale of the 22nd World Martial Arts Tournament. Muten roshi gave up training way back in the orginal dragonball after the first goku vs tien tournament fight. Santiago. The attack draws energy from the hidden potential. You could argue this makes tien the stronger of the two by the time buu appears but there is really nothing to confirm this. Answer:Everytime Z-heroes train to fight they gain huge boosts. This all also happened after Nail sensed the power of Captain Ginyu.Now lets consider that Ten was on King kai 260 days,254 days more then Piccolo,that makes his Pl after king kai rather VERY high.Considering piccolo progression during those 3 years and the fast pace everyone increased in dbz like in the sayan saga or just the fact that 158 days on Kaiô-sama's planet=several thousand years of training on Earth it is possible that piccolo surpassed nail.Remember if there isn't a quote saying that Piccolo fought like a ssj against c-20 everyone would say that piccolo had a pl around 12.000.000 using your biased retarded logic.Dbz logic is quite different.Dumb MFG old theory:Gravity isn't the only way but it helps immensely. Besides, you are missing the entire point. Then it seems like krillin slacks off while tien keeps training. @Saki19 bad writing and the ignoring if characters isnt a staple for whos stronger. Officially, Kuririn is the strongest Earthling. After the Cell Games Krillin stopped training and got married. Tien and Krillin would have done some nice strategy, having Goten and Trunks on the edge of losing. like this: mystic gohan may be stronger then ssj3 goku(he is), but goku is a brilliant fighter who could probably find some way to beat his son. He also had others there with him. And Vegeta, taking advantage of training in high Gravity, increased his power level by the millions. No. Despite that, two humans, Krillin and Tien have stayed at the forefront of the battles that defined Dragon Ball Z.Even though they’ve never fought each other directly, we’re going to take a closer look at both fighters to see which one of Earth’s toughest human champions is really stronger. I think in the Android Saga: Yamcha is stronger than Oozaru Saiyan Saga Vegeta but weaker than 1st Form Frieza, same goes for Krillin. He is easily stronger than Krillen. 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